Re: Lying is legal when goverment employees do it. (Court advice)

[ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home)]

Jean-Francois Avon wrote:
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> On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 21:41:02 +0100, Anonymous wrote:
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> >At 10:01 AM 3/5/99 -0800, Greg Broiles wrote:
> >>inaccurate. The laws and social norms governing the behavior of attorneys
> >>and investigators don't penalize, and sometimes reward, lying and
> >>deception. 
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> >Lying is legal when government employees do it.  -JG
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> >You can choose not to incriminate yourself should you be
> >asked an offensive question.  You may not be on trial,
> >but your testimony is recorded, and thus, could incriminate.
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> Sorry to displease you, but we have a Grande Premiere here in Canada.  Under 
> the new firearms law, you MUST help the cops conduct their without-warrant 
> search and seizure in any way they ask or you are liable of up to two years 
> emprisonment.  We lost our right to shut up and not incriminate ourselves, 
> isn't that wonderful?

We'll likely have the same shit in this country 30 years from now.

All in the name of "saving children" and "promoting harmony in society".

igor

> Somebody who knows what she say recently commented this law is so deeply 
> imbedded in the Canadian Criminal Code that it can, already was and will be 
> used for totally unrelated topics and police abuses.
>   
> British Columbia's (provincial) Prime Minister had his house ransacked, 
> searched and seized by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (federal) apparently 
> as a legal consequences of thoses "new and improved" (tm) criminal code 
> subtleties.
>   
> Clearly, we here in Kanada, are slowly but very surely moving toward police 
> state.
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> jfa
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> Definition:  FASCISM: n.:  a political and economic movement, strongly nationalistic, magnifying the rights of the state as opposed to those of the individual, in which industry, though remaining largely under private ownership, and all administrative
> political units, are controlled by a strong central government.
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> "One of the ordinary modes by which tyrants accomplish their purpose, without resistance, is by disarming the people and making it an offense to keep arms".  - Joseph Story, U.S. Supreme Court Justice.
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> the German gun control laws were enacted by the "liberal" Weimar Republic government that preceded Hitler, and were a strong aid to his coming to power -- because they disarmed Hitler's opponents, and Hitler's adherents ignored them -- as criminals have always ignored gun control laws.
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> Disarming the public is a frequent first step toward dictatorships and genocides.  Once the disarming is complete, the public is helpless against those who have the guns.        -------------------------------------------------
> "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore 
>  deprive them of their arms."
>                                  -- Aristotle, "Politics"
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	- Igor.