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RE: [FW1] Helo for CCSA Exam




Money, money, money, money.

Continual measurable advancement in a profession where the sky is the limit
if your "the man". 
Think of it as a career move...


Thanx
Sue V

Susan Vervoort-Airey
Sales & Merchandising Group
Exchange & Web Administrator
905-238-8058 x263
416-563-5521 pager
mailto:suev@samg.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	sirving@ca.ibm.com [SMTP:sirving@ca.ibm.com]
> Sent:	Friday, September 03, 1999 8:32 AM
> To:	Mike Givens
> Cc:	'fw-1-mailinglist@lists.us.checkpoint.com'
> Subject:	RE: [FW1] Helo for CCSA Exam
> 
> 
> Why are people taking the CCSA/CCSE exams?  As a person that doesn't
> believe too
> much in certifications I am wondering why people are paying money to
> obtain a
> piece of paper that says they know how to do their job.  This is even more
> valid
> when you consider that everyone says there are wrong answers and
> misleading
> questions on the test.
> 
> I know I probably won't get any answers back but thought I would ask.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Givens <mikeg@iowa.com> on 09/02/99 02:58:36 PM
> 
> Please respond to Mike Givens <mikeg@iowa.com>
> 
> To:   "'Vervoort Susan'" <SueV@SAMG.com>, "'Hutchison, Jim'"
>       <JimHutchison@metronet.ca>,
> "'fw-1-mailinglist@lists.us.checkpoint.com'"
>       <fw-1-mailinglist@lists.us.checkpoint.com>
> cc:
> Subject:  RE: [FW1] Helo for CCSA Exam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> We just took the course's, and the instructor stated, and I quote:
> 
> "Study the User Guides only !  All the answers are in those books ! "
> 
> I am getting ready to take the CCSA and CCSE test on the same day. (In
> about
> three weeks.)
> 
> Wish me luck !
> 
> Mike Givens MCSE
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vervoort Susan [mailto:SueV@SAMG.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 1:38 PM
> To: 'Hutchison, Jim'; 'fw-1-mailinglist@lists.us.checkpoint.com'
> Subject: RE: [FW1] Helo for CCSA Exam
> 
> 
> 
> yep. 500 is right, the only other way to get that book, is to take a 2500$
> course.
> I however passed the CCSA without the course or the course guide.
> I used the 75$ firewall 1 manual to study from. I took the exam three
> times
> though... That was because with no third party input, it is hard to know
> what to study...
> I missed the first exam by 3 questions and the second by 1. My reason was
> that i had no idea what questions were incorrect on the first one, so i
> second guessed myself on the second exam...
> After migrating our our firewall and doing some more studying, i passed
> the
> third one no problem...
> 
> Hope that gives some insight from someone who did it the hard way...
> 
> 
> Thanx
> Sue V
> 
> Susan Vervoort-Airey
> Sales & Merchandising Group
> Exchange & Web Administrator
> 905-238-8058 x263
> 416-563-5521 pager
> mailto:suev@samg.com
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:   Hutchison, Jim [SMTP:JimHutchison@metronet.ca]
> > Sent:   Thursday, September 02, 1999 11:08 AM
> > To:     'fw-1-mailinglist@lists.us.checkpoint.com'
> > Subject:     RE: [FW1] Helo for CCSA Exam
> >
> >
> > ...a question about Canadian training:
> >
> > I've found that the best I can do for self-directed CSSE training is to
> > buy
> > the manual from a training shop for $500 and write the exam for $200.
> > Checkpoint JUST recently removed the order form for the manuals so only
> > authorized traning centers can buy the material.
> >
> > Is this anyone else's experience?  500 clams for a manual seems steep to
> > me...
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vervoort Susan [SMTP:SueV@SAMG.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 7:02 AM
> > > To:   'Chris Dodd'; 'fw-1-mailinglist@lists.us.checkpoint.com'
> > > Subject:   RE: [FW1] Helo for CCSA Exam
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, that manual you got in class.
> > > And the Standard manual you can get off the cd or in a big red box
> form
> > > checkpoint...($75.00)
> > >
> > > There are 47 questions, you need 33 to pass.
> > > I would not say they are hard, but they are tricky. Some questions
> have
> > > you
> > > trying to figure out if they mean what they are saying, or if the
> > question
> > > is just poorly written...
> > > I managed to pass it though...
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanx
> > > Sue V
> > >
> > > Susan Vervoort-Airey
> > > Sales & Merchandising Group
> > > Exchange & Web Administrator
> > > 905-238-8058 x263
> > > 416-563-5521 pager
> > > mailto:suev@samg.com
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:    Chris Dodd [SMTP:Chrisd@remingtonltd.com]
> > > > Sent:    Tuesday, August 31, 1999 11:29 PM
> > > > To: 'fw-1-mailinglist@lists.us.checkpoint.com'
> > > > Subject: RE: [FW1] Helo for CCSA Exam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > By 'study guide', do you just mean the Student User Guide?  Thats
> the
> > > only
> > > > book I got in my CCSA class.
> > > >
> > > > How hard are the tests?  I feel that I know the class material very
> > well
> > > > and
> > > > use the product anyway.
> > > >
> > > > CHris
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Vervoort Susan [mailto:SueV@SAMG.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 9:44 AM
> > > > To: 'Poulin, Alex'; 'fw-1-mailinglist@lists.us.checkpoint.com'
> > > > Subject: RE: [FW1] Helo for CCSA Exam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Last time i checked (my exam is tomorrow) there were no practice
> > > questions
> > > > or exams.
> > > > They say the best thing is to read the "manuals" that you can order
> > from
> > > > checkpoint and go over the study guide.
> > > > I found that there aren't even any third party books out there
> yet...
> > > (one
> > > > in the works...)
> > > >
> > > > Hope that helps...
> > > >
> > > > Thanx
> > > > Sue V
> > > >
> > > > Susan Vervoort-Airey
> > > > Sales & Merchandising Group
> > > > Exchange & Web Administrator
> > > > 905-238-8058 x263
> > > > 416-563-5521 pager
> > > > mailto:suev@samg.com
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From:  Poulin, Alex [SMTP:Alex.Poulin@emergis.com]
> > > > > Sent:  Tuesday, August 31, 1999 9:14 AM
> > > > > To:    'fw-1-mailinglist@lists.us.checkpoint.com'
> > > > > Subject:    [FW1] Helo for CCSA Exam
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > >     I would like help and suggestion before taking the CCSA exam,
> I
> > > did
> > > > > the
> > > > > CCSA course and I want to passe the CCSA exam before doing the
> CCSE
> > > > > course.
> > > > > Anybody have sample questions or sample exam?
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > Alex....
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Alex Poulin
> > > > > Emergis Development
> > > > > BCE Emergis
> > > > > tel:(514) 868-2200 #3666 / fax:(514) 868-2324
> > > > > alex.poulin@emergis.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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