RE: [FW1] Helo for CCSA Exam

[Dave A. Flanigan <dave@flanigan.net>]

Dave:

         While there is definitely merit to what you are saying, isn't it 
putting the cart before the horse? The CCSE/CCSA, as with any professional 
certification is supposed to be an pedigree saying "I know" not "I am 
learning".  If anyone who can read a couple of books can go and pass the 
certification exam, then is it really of value?

         I believe the fault lies with this particular certification 
process, not concept as a whole. Take Cisco's CCIE certification as an 
example of a certification process that works. There are only 5 CCIEs in 
the Cleveland area (for example) and many who have tried and failed. The 
process is long, and includes testing, and grueling lab. At the end there 
is no question (to you, and to the world) that you know what you are doing. 
Only then are you awarded the CCIE certification.  Unless it takes both a 
good amount of study, and a good amount of real world experience to 
accomplish the certification, then it becomes meaningless.

         Having taken both the CCSE and CCSA I can honestly say that they 
should be handing out "Certificates of Completion" not certifications.

         Dave

At 04:12 PM 9/3/99 +0100, Dave Long, NCR wrote:
>I think what I'm working my way round to saying is that you could certainly
>get the level of knowledge contained in CCSE by work experience, but you
>wouldn't get it in the same time. So someone who does CCSE and then starts
>applying it in the real world will soon be ahead of someone who missed CCSE
>but spent the time getting a few days' more real world experience.



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